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Shock, horror some book fans are alleged to fake Star ratings on review pages!

Last post 04-27-2008 13:50 by kel3006. 8 replies.
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  • 04-26-2008 15:37 Post ID: 331,676 

    Shock, horror some book fans are alleged to fake Star ratings on review pages!

     

     Interesting article about alleged dirty tricks in the book world...

    A cautionary tale of reviews...

    • Apr. 20th, 2008 at 11:43 AM

    I just joined a book community called genrereviews that looked fun in terms of its discussions about books. What immediately caught my eye looking back over the recent entries was one asking whether we trusted Amazon reviews. Now I tend to not read amazon reviews and synopsis because of the tendency for them to give spoilers, though will sometimes glance at the numbers of stars.

    With my latest review posted this morning of Scott Smith's The Ruins (this one has spoilers, which I usually avoid but I needed to rant) I can't blame reviews as I borrowed it based on remarks I had seen about its alleged theme of Mayan ruins and horror in the jungle. The glowing reviews I read were after the fact and to be fair to Amazon reviewers there were plenty of 1 & 2 star ones.

    What caught my eye in the genrereviews entry were links to the Dear Author blog, about a scandal involving a paranormal/romance writer's campaign against a reviewer who had given her book a 3-star rating on amazon. A summary post with links can be found here. Basically it is highlighting the phenomena of 'attack author's who seek to have bad reviews removed and also use their influence to get higher ratings by having friends submit high reviews.

    Looking deeper into the phenomena I looked up the offending author's (Deborah MacGillivray) review page at amazon.co.uk and it seems the woman doesn't have a critical bone in her body as pretty much all the 900+ reviews she gives are 5-star and are glowing with praise. For her own novels there seem to be tons of 5-star ones and maybe one dissenting 1-star! This is just unrealistic. There are always a range of responses to novels and movies. I try to find good points in the books I read but a 5-star review is still more of an occasional thing when something wows me.

    Thinking that the community over on Goodreads.com would be less effected by this type of manipulation I found that again her novels were getting average ratings of 4.75ish. Looking at them at random there was perhaps one or two that seemed genuine with reviews actually being given the book and then a whole bunch of others where all someone had done was enter 5 stars against the title. Looking at the Goodreads home pages of these members at random there are no profiles and pages of 5-star ratings with no comment at all, all added pretty much on the same day. No 'currently reading', no 'to be read' books. I don't think it takes an Agatha Christie sleuth to figure out something is fishy there!

    Even Ms. MacGillivray's own Goodread's page again has 8 pages of 5-star ratings without even bothering to do the reviews she did on Amazon or giving indications that she is a genuine member (again no currently reading). All this seems to suggest a strategy to boost the ratings of certain authors' books in a reciprocal arrangement or using fake Ids.

     

    John

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  • 04-26-2008 17:02 Post ID: 331,719  In reply to

    Re: Shock, horror some book fans are alleged to fake Star ratings on review pages!

    Lol funny enough I do have a book on my TBR written by this author, but I was compelled to read it after a friend recommended her and loves her books.

    Currently Reading - Two Little Lies by Liz Carlyle
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  • 04-26-2008 23:08 Post ID: 331,904  In reply to

    Re: Shock, horror some book fans are alleged to fake Star ratings on review pages!

    It makes me a bit sad. Why can the author not let her work speak for itself. As we all know, there will always be someone that hates a book whilst others will love it. Reviews on amazon and reading forums are not meant to be a marketing tool surely!

    Think I'll stick to the opinions of people I know and trust on here!

    Have a good year in 2009!
  • 04-27-2008 8:55 Post ID: 331,935  In reply to

    Re: Shock, horror some book fans are alleged to fake Star ratings on review pages!

    I always suspected this but thought it was more likely to be the publishers that manipulated the reviews.
    Can't trust anything these days..awful!Super Angry

    Currently reading: The Book of Air and Shadows by Michael Gruber
  • 04-27-2008 9:40 Post ID: 331,953  In reply to

    • tolly18
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    Re: Shock, horror some book fans are alleged to fake Star ratings on review pages!

    This is most interesting, and several times I've read 5 star reviews on Amazon that could well have been put on by the author or his/her friends. Never noticed anything in a big way, though, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong books! If I do review for Amazon it is because I either loved or loathed the book in question, or think it has been unfairly marked down, and if there are lots of 5 stars already I don't bother.

     

    I do love your quotation, John:

    "The truly cultured are capable of owning thousands of unread books without losing their composure or desire for more." Gabriel Zaid.

    Don't know about the 'truly cultured' but agree thoroughly with the sentiment!

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  • 04-27-2008 10:24 Post ID: 331,973  In reply to

    Re: Shock, horror some book fans are alleged to fake Star ratings on review pages!

    I have to say overall tho it wouldnt put me off buying a book from authors who do this, as the ratings dont have a lot to do with what i buy, i have often bought books with 2star ratings that I have loved, I tend to choose what I think I would like by the blurb etc

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  • 04-27-2008 13:14 Post ID: 332,044  In reply to

    Re: Shock, horror some book fans are alleged to fake Star ratings on review pages!

    thats a bit embaressing for them really, I get my reviews from here and decide on books from reading the back cover

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  • 04-27-2008 13:24 Post ID: 332,049  In reply to

    • Davbro
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    Re: Shock, horror some book fans are alleged to fake Star ratings on review pages!

    I am the same, I listen to people on here especially people I know who read the same genre(s) as myself.

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  • 04-27-2008 13:50 Post ID: 332,068  In reply to

    Re: Shock, horror some book fans are alleged to fake Star ratings on review pages!

    I tend to listen to people on here for book recommendations but I have also boon known to back the recommendation up with a peek on Amazon.  Although it is a good tool to use I will now take it with a pinch of salt as I did not realise that it was being manipulated like this.  Just goes to show that in every area of life not everyone can be trusted!!!!

    Kel xxx

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